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GazSmith

GazSmith
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05.05.2011 13:43

Converting break fix to managed services - rates issue?

We're moving into a managed services model from break fix and we're having a hard time trying to persuade our customers to convert.

Could you give me your opinion on our rates as I think it may be why they're not switching. We have been charging £15 +VAT / hour on break fix.

PC: £40 +VAT /month
Server: £100 +VAT /month

We've decided to start out as an all you can eat SLA and tweak as we go - is that how you guys have started out?

Cheers!




 
ostrichit

ostrichit
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01.07.2011 10:23
Re: Converting break fix to managed services - rates issue?
Hi Gaz,

Looks a bit quite on here and I don't know if you got an answer to your question.

If you still want some pointers, let me know.

Cheers

Matt




 
jharbidge

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04.07.2011 13:33
Re: Converting break fix to managed services - rates issue?
Gaz,

£15/Hr... Are you serious??? You can easily earn 2-4+ times that as a plumber!

I'm not sure exactly what market you're aiming at, or in what part of the country, but £15/hr is far, far, far too low to even make the business worthwhile.

Maths lesson coming up...

52 Weeks - 2 weeks holiday = 50 Weeks
40 hours a week x 50 Weeks = 2,000 hours
2,000 hours x £15 = £30,000

Average UK male wage £30,521

(http://career-advice.monster.co.uk/salary-benefits/pay-salary-advice/uk-average-salary-graphs/article.aspx)

Assuming you're 100% productive and its just you you'll not even make the average UK wage. BUT you've not taken any account of the costs of running a business...

Your hardware, software, tools, rent, rates, Professional indemnity insurance, public liability insurance, advertising costs, book keeping, staff etc.

Next bit... Managed Services example...

For a 10 PC + SBS network you're looking to charge £400 x 10 + 1 x £100 = £500 per month

£500 / £15/hr = 33.333 hrs

Therefore unless you're needing to spend more than 33 hours a month every month onsite for the client they'll be better off sticking with break/fix...PLUS if you do need to be spending more than 33 hours a month onsite then there's something seriously wrong!

Our rates - and your market may vary...

Standard Hourly rate £70 + VAT

Monthly Managed Services AYCE + AV software -

Desktop / Laptop @ £35 + VAT
SBS @ £175 + VAT
Additional Servers @ £100 + VAT

So 10 PC + SBS is £525 per month or 7.5 hours

33.333 hours V 7.5 hours

I don't want to sound patronising - I hope I haven't, but you've sold yourself short at £15, thereby your clients won't value the work and you've got a big job convincing them to commit to 400 hours worth of work as opposed to the 90 hours we do to get the same job!

Put your prices up!

HTH

James




 
smartit

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26.03.2012 18:49
Re: Converting break fix to managed services - rates issue?
I'd agree, £15 per hour is far too low. I'm not surprised they're not signing up!

We charge £70 per hour in the North East, which is typical for an IT company here. Managed services we charge around £10 - £15 per PC, and £60-£80 per server.

So a 10 PC, 1 Server service would cost:

10 x £15
1 x £80
Total = £230
which works out at around 3-4 hours per month

For a freelance/new business £50 per hour seems to be the norm. You wont win everyone at that price, but you can rest assured you're covering your costs.




 
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